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FTAC: A Note on America’s Far White Right – The Sons (of the Sons of the Sons of the Sons) of the Pioneers

20 Saturday Mar 2021

Posted by commart in 21st Century Feudal, 21st Century Modern, American Domestic Affairs, Conflict - Culture - Language - Psychology, Extreme Brown vs Red-Green, FTAC - From The Awesome Conversation, Psychology, United States of America

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Archaic-Romantic Extremism, Far White Right, Race, Racialism

I don’t know if the groups and leaderships attending what the SPLC might refer to as “Neo-Confederate” and “Neo-Nazi” are authentically homegrown perennials or stylish annuals that keep seeding themselves from year to year, but it has occurred to me that world always moves on around its hotheads, especially the archaic and romantic who may wish to hold on to what they believe they once had. So from the awesome conversation with the world at my desktop, here’s a note on all of that.

From the Awesome Conversation

I would think the Southern Far White Right in part the great-great grandchildren of settlers and the last of the pioneers, invariably white and looking for their place in the developing New World and who bore with them from one generation to the next the legends of the settling of the west. Farms, ranches, railroads, trading posts, towns, cities, dirt tracks, and highways. Where are they now? Ill-educated, some; overrun, for sure, and no longer the law and the outlaw with a few Mexicans around for decoration. They’re working for their hires; the children of slaves are bosses (some, I’m sure); John Wayne’s a foggy memory; Denzel’s more the memory for America’s middle aged; Bond’s partner is a black woman . . . .

The cities may be cool or mildly restive with all while the rural lanes, whether real or just winding through the heart, may be still what they were and now surrounded by an alien colorful all-inclusive all-tolerated multi-gendered multicultural powerful hypermodern New American political and lifestyle culture.

Bureaucracy, law, and technology may support American domestic security, but it sure can’t solve cultural issues involving birthrights and expectations about how the world should work. It’s understandable that we would have some disappointed-struggling sons of old white sons for whom official favor might seem (by themselves) deserved.

Addendum

Who would stop history?

The processes attending conquest and the establishment of sovereignty across geopolitical space and time give way, inevitably, to periods of Administration either, Genghis style, for sustained plunder or, alas, for The Good, i.e., for renewed husbandry, shepherding, and stewardship of all that may be valued in peace. These days, bloody expansions needs must give way to community care, development, and trade, mere avarice proving insufficient for the defense of sustained new wealth.

My correspondent accused me of holding hackneyed views in relation to what I’ve labeled the “Far White Right”, a term invented for Donald John Trump’s not-so-colorful base. Members of the FWR, I was told, were also highly educated and wealthy and enamored of the American Dream, so I was told. My response –>


If “They both believe in and live the American dream”, wherefore the racial angst and want of (renewed) privilege?

Wherefore the want of racially-based political ascendance and dominance?

I’m inclined to publish my own words, but, as always would be interested in seeing what a true political topology looks like for those now deeply resenting the darker hues along with Jews.


I had also inserted a link to Far Out Lefty Noel Ignatiev’s book, How the Irish Became White.

Here’s the thing about race and white boys and black boys and girls and all the shades and stances between –>

As a species . . . .

Hitchhikers thumbs, cars, old shoes, planes, ships, and trains and legions of defenders, traders, and raiders — we sure do “get around” and have gotten around, and there’s nothing to undo it.

The mentalities of criminals and extremists seems always archaic, self-adoring, and self-aggrandizing as if humiliation and mortification somewhere near has compelled repair and some former perceived noble state of affairs may be found forward with an heroic defiance of the future.

Related Online

Hyman, Frank. “The Confederacy was a con job on whites. And still is.” McClatchy, DC Bureau, March 11, 2021.

Oppenheim, James S. “FTAC: The American Quilt, the Confederate Flag and Southern Pride, and the Soviet-Style Erasing of History.” BackChannels, June 13, 2020.

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FTAC: Dumb Americans and Racial Herding

24 Wednesday Feb 2021

Posted by commart in 21st Century Feudal, 21st Century Modern, American Domestic Affairs, Conflict - Culture - Language - Psychology, Epistemology, Extreme Brown vs Red-Green, FTAC - From The Awesome Conversation, Political Psychology

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far out left, Far White Right, medieval v modern, USA Historic Revisionism, USA Race Relations

Appearing earlier on this blog: “FTAC: The American Quilt, the Confederate Flag and Southern Pride, and The Soviet-Style Erasing of History” (June 13, 2020).

Inspiration for this relay: I had said, “We were doing just fine with North-South peace and firecracker sales and southern rock” when the meaning of the Confederate flag was revived as a symbol of southern bigotry and secession (and slavery). My conversational partner said, “That works if you’re a privileged WHITE MALE! If you’re a Black Male it’s FUCKED!”

From the Awesome Conversation


That’s only if the Black Male thinks he’s Fucked.

Let me show you something about North and South —

Black and White?

Posted to YouTube by US National Archives, September 6, 2013 and narrated by Carl T. Rowen who was in 1963 Director of the U.S. Information Agency.

History walks slowly, and while slavery may have been done after Lincoln’s handling of the matter and segregation finished by the Great Society and LBJ, it’s understood that some evil currents and ruthless bigots hold out a long time even while time grinds them down.

With black and white bigots still at play in OUR country and some foreign agent provocateur interested in watching the United States of America come apart — and possibly just some dumb people, political simpletons, really, swallowing intellectual poison, the Confederate Flag laid to rest for war — it was created to clarify who was who in General Lee’s engagements — and made into a generalized American symbol of a rebellious spirit — has been re-contextualized BACKWARD as a living symbol of hate.

What the hell are we doing back with the mentalities of the 1930s and the 1950s?

A little more that might be associated with the now thankfully passed “Trumpian Detour”:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Party_(1943)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_L._K._Smith

This guy was a bigot — and it turns out a lonely one too:

I think we’re being moved around by forces that would like to herd us back into malleable medieval mobs and somehow inclined to Think Black! Think White!

Yeah, well, Think Integrated, Multicultural, Rainbow — that’s far more our Real Cultural Politic.

Just say no to historical revisionism from Far Out Left spoilers and Far White Right idiots.


Related and Live at Posting

Russia’s Active Measures programming has turned out a serious matter as has disinformation driven by domestic financial and political interests in the United States — just have another look at Donald Trump and check out the company his company has kept over many years (some Craig Unger and H. B. Glushakow might be helpful for that).

Live at posting, February 24, 2021.

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FTAC: A Note On My Divided America

09 Wednesday Dec 2020

Posted by commart in 21st Century Feudal, 21st Century Modern, American Domestic Affairs, FTAC - From The Awesome Conversation, Political Psychology

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Far White Right, Political Delusion and Paranoia

Verbatim but for identification of the thread host.

The inspiration was one of those grievance-laden rants about the Clintons and Obama, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, the Steele Dossier, George Soros, the CIA, the FBI, and “The Deep State”.


It’s not the truth, K. It’s polemic without basis, empirical, factual or otherwise.

Posted elsewhere on this thread . . . but I wanted to reply to you specifically —

Is there the possibility of your being wrong and having been wrong about President Trump and his claims?

https://conflict-backchannels.com/2019/11/17/marie-yovanovitch-the-kind-of-person-president-trump-fires-from-his-administration/

There is in politics related to conflict a concept widely accepted as “Accusation in a Mirror”.

On YouTube, Republicans Voting Against Trump (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC03-Q9vq-JyiStTnqasADVg) voluntarily submitted recordings of their most personal political views and the insults and violations of their sensibilities brought to them by Donald J. Trump. Listen to them. Listen to their hearts. They are your fellow Republicans and fellow Americans.

Is there in your heart even the possibility that your information may be wrong and your conclusions faulty?

Social control in our competitor’s state, Russia, often involves medieval agitation and propaganda; today’s America has been deeply divided not by examined issues but by defamation, disinformation, innuendos, and the floating of wild conspiracy theories that just don’t add up or pan out with clinical examination. The post-Soviet (World Peace Council) Far Out Left knows the methods too, but here in the United States, it really has been a kind of Far White Right that has spun up delusion and paranoia in its ranks.


I am certain that more centered and moderate Americans encounter similar rants composed or copy-and-pasted from the Trump base, and I wouldn’t know what to tell them but to battle back the disinformation.

Also related on BackChannels: https://conflict-backchannels.com/2020/02/13/active-measures/

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FTAC: A Note on President Trump and the ‘Far White Right’

04 Wednesday Nov 2020

Posted by commart in 21st Century Feudal, 21st Century Modern, American Domestic Affairs, Conflict - Culture - Language - Psychology, FTAC - From The Awesome Conversation, North America, United States of America

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Far White Right, Supremicists, Trump

https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-history-of-support-from-white-supremacist-far-right-groups-2020-9

Boogaloo Bois, Oath Keepers, Patriot Prayer, Proud Boys, and The Base, among others, appear to love him.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/white-nationalist-hate-groups-southern-poverty-law-center

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/06/joe-biden/fbi-director-warned-about-white-supremacist-violen/

I’ll agree that leftward spin attempts to conflate the President’s attitude with laxity toward these groups, but that these groups find hope with Trump and number among his supporters — and they have grown with his presidency — tells us about the character of his mission despite the harness that comes with high office.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/fbi-wont-have-doc-on-domestic-terror-until-after-election.html

Trump’s enthusiasm for Alex Jones, his several felons (start with his initial selection of “campaign manager” Paul Manafort), and his positive relationship with conspiracy theories tell us about us and what we are willing to endorse.

Of course no American President would endorse the Far White Right cadre of committed supremacists, but the persistent relationship — they like him! — plus soft stance from Trump’s podium remain. While The Donald may wrestle with the phantom of father Fred (e.g., https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/28/in-1927-donald-trumps-father-was-arrested-after-a-klan-riot-in-queens/ | https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html), his here-and-now image has been and will probably remain besmirched by the tolerance so far shown those bigoted apparently for fear of displacement or narcissistic want of exception, both predicated on white Christian identity.

Post-Election — and the FBI will soon publish a report on domestic terrorism that includes an assessment of white-supremacist threats — race and religious issues will continue to fester in America despite so much progress made through civil rights and other activism across decades. They will do so — we will have this region of domestic conflict — because of the resonance between “camps” set up by those who foster and harbor fear and hate in relation to their chosen targets among fellow Americans.

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